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I got this from my wow_ladies forums.

http://community.livejournal.com/wow_ladies/3063556.html
 
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Mmmm... Northreeeeend...
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Maybe the next expansion will get announced at the big Blizzcon event that happens soon.
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Maybe the next expansion will get announced at the big Blizzcon event that happens soon.
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For the Lore Deficiency Handicapped: Northrend is a Continent roughly a quarter the size of the Eastern Kingdoms. It is found far to the North, where Prince Arthas merged with the Orc Necromancer, Ner'zhul. They are now one being known as the Lich King, ruling from the Frozen Throne in the center of the continent.

So, what can be found in this frozen wasteland? A great many things!

For us Alliance, the most hospitable place, remotely resembling civilization, is found in the form of Valgarde. A small outpost built by the remaining former followers of Arthas during their initial expedition. This will likely be our starting zone and trade center upon release.

Zul Drak is also found here. Populated by the cousins of the Jungle Trolls of Zul Gurub and the Forest Trolls of Zul Aman, the Ice Trolls of Zul Drak are a particularly vicious bunch, albeit being far less in numbers.

The Third Titan Base is also found here. Ulduar, just like Uldaman and the unreleased Uldum, are the dwellings of the Titans upon landing in Un'goro Crater in a much much younger Azeroth. I know a dwarf or two who would give away all their ale to take a sneak peak at this place!

The Dragonblight is the graveyard of all dragons. Just like the Kodos of Desolace, dragons fly north when they feel their life force slipping away.

Coldarra. Just as Tanaris is home to the Bronze Dragons, Coldarra is the refuge for the Blue Dragonflight as they replenish their depleted numbers. Guardians of Magic and Mysticism as they are, this place is filled with Magical Artifacts that adventurers keep seeking despite the perils.

For more lore and info turn to the best source I know of Smile

http://www.blizzp...ntent/386/
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From IGN:


Recently we've been receiving emails regarding the rumored second expansion. One came in from an anonymous "blizz guy," whatever that means. He claimed to have inside knowledge of what Blizzard was going to announce, which we've highlighted below. Please keep in mind that this list is entirely unsubstantiated.

* That expansion pack is called World of Warcraft: Into the Maelstrom

* The Maelstrom area of Azeroth will be opened up for play. Will consist of various islands and Undermine will have a new neutral city.

* The islands will include questing zones, raid dungeons, that city, and a new arena.

* The level cap is being raised to 80 with the expansion but there will be no new talents.

* Advancement after level 70 will be through Hero Classes rather than talents. Hero classes will function as subclasses and each existing class will have 3 of these hero classes to choose from. These hero classes will not be limited by talent choices. Players will be able to choose these new subclasses at trainers when ItM goes live.

* Currently the Priest and Druid hero classes are complete and the Warrior and Mage are close to completion.

* Hero classes will be demonstrated at BlizzCon

When contacted, a Blizzard representative responded with, "we haven't announced any details on a second expansion. We also can't comment on rumors or speculation."
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I also heard that the second expansion would be the Emerald Dream...or at least, someone said that BLIZZ said it would be.

So now we have three possible expansions to come:

1. Northrend
2. Undermine (I'd LOVE this!)
3. The Emerald Dream

I know Blizzard said that they'd shoot for one expansion a year. And Blizzcon is always where they make their big announcements. This year should be a REALLY big announcement too, because they hardly showed anything at E3. That makes me think that they're saving up for something great.
 
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So rumors tell us it's
1. Northrend
2. Undermine (I'd LOVE this!)
3. The Emerald Dream


OR... it's whatever Blizzard is actually working on? lol!
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Personally, I'd like to see Kul Tiras, Tol Barad, Zul Dare and Crestfall... Islands between Southshore and Menethil Harbor that are sorely missing from the game.

Out of the 7 great Human cities only a few remain:

Alterac: Decimated when they betrayed the Alliance (2nd War)
Dalaran: Destroyed by Archimonde (3rd War)
Lordaeron: Ruined by Arthas (3rd War)
Stormwind: Destroyed (1st War) but Rebuilt later on to be what it is now.
Stromgarde: Destabilized by Ogres and the Syndicate (Lame. Don't even get me started on this one. Angry)
Gilneas: No one knows. They built a wall to close it off from the rest of the world.
Kul Tiras: You see people in game from this place, but sadly, its missing.

If the expansion really is Undermine (a goblin island in the South Seas) then there is a good chance they might include all the other Islands... *crosses fingers*

To see what's missing from Azeroth, check this out:

http://www.blizzp...-boats.jpg

Here is an earlier version of the Eastern Kingdoms before all the ret-cons. Notice how Menethil Harbor didn't exist yet:

http://www.blizzp...S-War2.jpg
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One came in from an anonymous "blizz guy,"


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....this sounds credible. I'm not saying that the guesses he posted are wrong -- just that they're guesses and almost definitely not from a Blizzard guy. They're the same kind of speculation others have reached from the publicly accessible data and presents nothing new -- and the name actually conflicts with a new piece of info. People have been speculating on hero classes (exactly as described above) since WoW was in Beta.

Not saying it won't happen -- just not putting any weight in this "anonymous blizz guy".

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Here are some facts that we can draw conclusions from:

The German software rating board's website has a list of upcoming games and their rating.

Listed is: World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Of course, this falls perfectly in place with expectations and other clues that have been picked up, including this map from the collector's edition of BC DVD, which we've seen before:

i97.photobucket.com/albums/l220/quill18/16.jpg

Finally, try this link:

http://www.worldo.../blahblah/

You get "404 Not Found".

Now try:

http://www.worldo...com/wrath/

You get "403 Forbidden".

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Expect for a couple of models in the data files, nothing points to an Emerald Dream expansion. Not yet, anyway. (Personally, I figure it'll be a dungeon/raid thing like CoT.)
Edited by Delours on 31-07-2007 23:51
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You guys are awesome! ^///^
 
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Aurris wrote:
You guys are awesome! ^///^


Go onnnnnnn....flattery will get you everywhere, dear.

Wink

We're glad to have you and Udez as well.
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*A large bear barges into the room, drops a web page print out, then leaps out the window*

(I got this from WorldOfRaids.com, which got it from wowszene.de, a German site.)

http://www.wowsze...xtend.1182


WoWszene.de came up with a massive amount of leaked infos on the next WoW Addon: Wrath of the Lich King

We asked to WoWszene.de the permission to post the translation (thanks MyM|Leniya) of the german part of their article ; there it is:

WoW-Szene.de presents you the most important contents about the new addon by Blizzard- World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King. Last night you could see those informations shortly on an underpage of the officially EU-WoW Website and got confirmed to WoW-Szene.de by other sources, among others the official FAQ to WotLK.


What to expect from the Expansion :


*It is going to Northrend! With level 80 and new abilities! If some Objects are achieved, you can create a new Character. The Death Knight. He starts straight in High Level Area.
*In PVP there will be finally be the long-ago announced siege weapons available and there will be destroyable buildings, plus a new battleground
*The Deathknight will be a kind of Damage Dealer and at the same time a Tank with so far non existant new abilities. He will be playable by Alliance and Horde, but it will be just certain Races who will have the possibility to create a Death Knight. He is the first Hero class and other will probably come in the following Expansions.



More summaries of the of the FAQs:


* New possibilities of designing your Character.
* You will fight against the Lich King Arthas!
* Leveling from 70 to 80 will take as much time as leveling from 60 to 70.
* Howling Fjord will be the first area you will arrive to. Afterwards there will be areas following like Grizzly Hills and Dragonblight.
* The first Dungeon will be Utgarde Keep. You will be able to enter it at level 70 and it will be a 5-man Instance. 25er Dungeons will still be existant, just as well as Heroic Instances.
* New Profession: Inscription Enduring amplification of spells and abilities.
* There will be a Cinematic Intro.
* Northrend will be about as big as Outlands.


Other contents like screenshots could sadly not be saved since the page went offline straight.

The complete FAQ with other Informations in English can be read at wowszene.de.
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*apparently Ninja'd from the WoW-EU website before the directory was taken offline*

FAQ for World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

What are the features of the new expansion?

Wrath of the Lich King builds on the rich foundation established in World of Warcraft and The Burning Crusade, providing a wealth of new content for players to explore. The harsh, forbidding continent of Northrend, home of the Lich King and his undead minions, will be uncovered on the world map, and to contend with the new challenges found there, players will be able to advance to level 80, acquiring potent new abilities and talents along the way.

In addition, Wrath of the Lich King will introduce the death knight hero class to World of Warcraft. Once certain criteria are met, players will be able to create a new death knight character, which will start at a high level. Furthermore, player-vs.-player battles will reach a new level of intensity with the addition of siege weapons and destructible buildings, not to mention a new battleground. There will also be an abundance of new quests, dungeons, monsters, items, and recipes -- as well as a new profession, inscription -- for players to try out. The expansion will include some additional character-customization options for players as well. We'll be going into more detail on all of these features in the months ahead.

How will the death knight class fit into the game?

The death knight combines martial prowess with dark, necromantic energies. Players might be familiar with the death knight from previously released Warcraft games -- most recently, in the campaigns for Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and the Frozen Throne expansion, the former paladin Arthas became a death knight and wreaked havoc across Azeroth and Northrend before fusing with the spirit of Ner'zhul to become the Lich King. The death knight is the first hero class in World of Warcraft; once certain criteria are met, players will unlock the ability to create a new death knight character, which will begin play at a high experience level. We're currently exploring various options for how the death knight will play and the types of abilities at its disposal, and we'll be revealing more information about this new class as we get further along in development.

Will the death knight have any abilities from previously released Warcraft games?

The way we portrayed death knights in past Warcraft games is certainly a source of inspiration, but we are still determining how best to capture that feel within the mechanics of World of Warcraft, and haven't made any final determinations on specific abilities.

What role will the death knight play in groups and raids?

In general terms, the death knight can be considered a type of class that combines damage dealing and tanking, but naturally it will have an array of unique abilities as well.

What races will be allowed to play death knights?

We haven't yet made a final determination about which races can be death knights. However, the class will be available to both the Alliance and the Horde.

Will there be additional hero classes in the future?

Yes, we do intend to add more hero classes in the future, but right now our focus is on the current expansion.

What is the story background of the expansion?

Players last visited Northrend in the Warcraft III expansion, when Arthas Menethil fused with the spirit of Ner'zhul to become the Lich King, one of the most powerful entities in the Warcraft universe. He now broods atop the Frozen Throne, deep in Icecrown Citadel, clutching the rune blade Frostmourne and marshaling the undead armies of the Scourge. In Wrath of the Lich King, the greatest champions of the Alliance and the Horde will do battle with the Scourge amid Northrend's howling winds and fields of jagged ice, and ultimately face the Lich King himself.

Will players actually get to encounter Arthas himself?

Players will be skirmishing with the minions of Arthas from the moment they set foot on Northrend. He will be a constant presence as players progress through the expansion content -- which will culminate in a showdown with the dread Lich King himself.

Can you discuss some of the new talents and abilities that will be available from level 70 to level 80?

As with character advancement up to level 70, players will gain access to an array of potent and exciting new abilities and talents as they make their way from level 70 to level 80. However, it's still too early to get into specifics on these.

How long will it take to advance from level 70 to level 80?

We were pleased with the pacing from level 60 to level 70 in The Burning Crusade, and we intend to take a similar approach to pacing character advancement in Wrath of the Lich King. However, the specific amount of time that it will take players to reach level 80 will vary widely based on play style.

What can you reveal about Northrend?

The first area of Northrend we're showcasing is the Howling Fjord, a region of grasslands overlooking massive cliffs at the southeastern edge of the continent. This, along with the Borean Tundra, is the front line of the war against Arthas, and players will come face to face with his minions as soon as they set foot on Northrend. Eventually, as players progress further, they will explore the Grizzly Hills, Dragonblight, and more. We'll be showing off some of these new areas in the months ahead.

What's the level requirement to enter Northrend?

Players of any level who have purchased the expansion can visit Northrend. However, all of the content is designed for players level 68 and up.

How many new dungeons will be in the expansion?

The first dungeon players will enter is Utgarde Keep, which is intended for five players around level 70. Utgarde is inhabited by the Vrykul, a Viking-like race bent on proving their strength to the Lich King, who will raise the most worthy of their warriors to serve him beyond the grave. We intend to provide a variety of dungeons comparable to that in The Burning Crusade and will be revealing more details about some of these in the months ahead.

Do you plan to continue with the 25-player model for raids?

Yes, we've been pleased with the tactics, intensity, and variety of the 25-player raid model, and plan to continue with it.

In what ways will players be able to further customize their characters in the expansion?

In addition to the numerous new character-customization options that will be available with all of the new weapons and armor added by the expansion, we'll be offering some fun ways to alter both existing and new characters with regard to dances and hairstyles, but we're not ready to go into more detail just yet.

What can you reveal about the new profession coming with the expansion?

Inscription allows the player to permanently enhance their spells and abilities and to create mysterious items of power to use, trade, and sell.

What can players expect with regard to player-vs.-player combat in the expansion?

Players will be able to take control of siege weapons and use them to destroy opposing buildings, adding a new layer of complexity to PvP battles. Naturally, we'll be providing some fun places to put these new tools to good use, and we'll be revealing more information about them in the months ahead, in addition to the new battleground content being added.

Can you give a sneak peek at the new recipes and items in the expansion?

There will be hundreds of new recipes and thousands of new items available, but we're not ready to discuss specific examples just yet.

How many zones will be in the expansion?

Northrend will be roughly equivalent to Outland in terms of size and scope.

Will there be any new cinematic scenes?

Yes, our cinematics department is hard at work preparing a new intro movie for the expansion.

Release/Availability

Do you need to own the expansion to play with friends who have it?

There will be many aspects of the expansion that will be available to all players. However, in order to experience certain content, such as Northrend, or be able to play as a death knight, players must purchase the expansion.

Will there be an open beta test of the expansion?

We have not yet determined whether the expansion will require an open beta test. If we do decide to conduct a beta test, details will be posted on the official World of Warcraft website once we've gotten further along in the development process.

When will the expansion be released? How much will it cost?

We have not yet announced a release date for the expansion set. However, we expect to announce further details, including the release date and price, on our community website in the months ahead. Please stay tuned to [link] for more information.

Will there be a collector's edition?

We have not yet made any determination about whether there will be a collector's edition of Wrath of the Lich King. We'll be announcing details such as this closer to release.

Will a Mac version be available simultaneously with the PC version?

Yes. As with all of our games, Wrath of the Lich King will be compatible with and optimized for both the Windows and Macintosh platforms.

What are the system requirements?

We'll continue to ensure that the game is playable on a wide range of hardware. However, we have not made a final determination on the system requirements as yet.

Will the expansion be released globally at the same time?

We recognize that players throughout the world will be eager to experience all of the new content being added with Wrath of the Lich King, and we will make every effort to release the expansion simultaneously worldwide. However, there's always the possibility that unforeseen circumstances could delay the launch in any given region. We'll share the launch timing with players in each region as soon as the plans have been finalized.

What is the ESRB rating for the expansion?

The expansion has not yet been rated by the ESRB. However, we anticipate that it will receive the same rating that the original World of Warcraft received -- "Teen."
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What can you reveal about the new profession coming with the expansion?

Inscription allows the player to permanently enhance their spells and abilities and to create mysterious items of power to use, trade, and sell.


Mithrilmist pointed out that this could resemble the power slotting system of City of Heroes. In CoH you had X slots on each power, which you could enhance with longer range, higher damage, higher accuracy, longer duration, etc... Think "sockets", but on your spells instead of your gear.
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Meh...the more I think about this post, the more questions I seem to have... I'll admit that the English FAQ is pretty convincing -- why would this German news site fake an English FAQ?

But otherwise, it just keeps hitting me that list is 100% wishlist fullfillment (hero classes, new BG with Siege weapons, instant-leveling for at least the hero class characters)... Historically, any set of patch notes that sounded too good to be true...was.

Don't hold you're breath on the stuff I posted. (Though it's still the most convincing thing I've read anywhere yet.)

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I've always maintained these predictions for the next expansion:

- Level 80
- Some form of accelerated leveling for new characters. Being able to unlock something at level 80 and start new characters at level 60 or 70 makes a TON of sense, even if it's just for these new hero classes.
- Talent trees don't go deeper than 41 points. Potentially you get a 4th tree (from a few choices?) that you can put points into. Else, no more talent points -- you get some other type of progression/customization.

Even if this is a fake, the "Inscription" profession would be a fine way to advance/customize your powers without talents. Consider the slotting system from City of Heroes -- when you hit level 71, you add a "socket" to your Shadowbolt and can then stick a damage/range/+hit inscription in it.
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Someone pointed out on WoW insider that it would probably be like making charms in Diablo. It seems a BIT too much like jewel crafting to me.

I know the expansion is 8-12 months away, but I have to wonder how many people are going to once again miss out on end came content because the bar was pushed again.

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I guess this is a confirmation on the name:

Earlier Today Thursday at 6am EST the second expansion pack of World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King appeared on the Blizzard Entertainment copyrights page at US Patent and Trademark Office Website.


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Wrath of the Lich King

* The level cap at Blizzcon will be set to 72 (It will be 80 at the release, of course)
* Utgarde Keep should be one of the first dungeon you can access, and the first wing will be playable at Blizzcon.
* Horde players will be able to access Northrend by taking a Zeppelin in Tirisfal Glades, they will arrive at Vengeance Landing in Howling Fjord. (This wasn't mentionned, but we can assume that Alliance players will arrive at Valgarde)


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* The reset timer should be 3 days.
* Loots will have pretty much the same quality as Tier 5 loots.
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so, should this prove true. I am SOOOOO going to be a death knight Grin
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